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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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One thing I liked about Internet Explorer was the ability to save webpages
(including all embedded graphics, etc.) to a single MHT file.
I used to do this in Firefox using the MAF extension. But it was never
updated for Firefox 2, let alone Firefox 3.
But this one looks good -
UnMHT for Firefox
http://www.unmht.org/unmht/en_index.html
Works with FF3. |
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hummingbird
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:20:11 -0500 'spoon2001'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
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One thing I liked about Internet Explorer was the ability to save webpages
(including all embedded graphics, etc.) to a single MHT file.
I used to do this in Firefox using the MAF extension. But it was never
updated for Firefox 2, let alone Firefox 3.
But this one looks good -
UnMHT for Firefox
http://www.unmht.org/unmht/en_index.html
Works with FF3.
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Spoon, I'm not a FF user, but I wonder if that extension will
embed the URL into the .mht documents like IE browsers do?
I find that a VERY useful feature of the IE renderer.
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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
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John Corliss
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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hummingbird wrote:
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:20:11 -0500 'spoon2001'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
One thing I liked about Internet Explorer was the ability to save webpages
(including all embedded graphics, etc.) to a single MHT file.
I used to do this in Firefox using the MAF extension. But it was never
updated for Firefox 2, let alone Firefox 3.
But this one looks good -
UnMHT for Firefox
http://www.unmht.org/unmht/en_index.html
Works with FF3.
Spoon, I'm not a FF user, but I wonder if that extension will
embed the URL into the .mht documents like IE browsers do?
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Can you clarify what you mean by embedding the URL? Thanks.
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I find that a VERY useful feature of the IE renderer.
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Interesting description of the .mht file type here:
http://filext.com/file-extension/MHT
"Archived Web Page. When you save a Web page as a Web archive in
Internet Explorer, the Web page saves this information in Multipurpose
Internet Mail Extension HTML (MHTML) format with a .MHT file extension.
All relative links in the Web page are remapped and the embedded content
is included in the .MHT file. The absolute references or hyperlinks on
the Web page remain unchanged and the .MHT file is viewed using Internet
Explorer. Note: This file type can become infected and should be
carefully scanned if someone sends you a file with this extension."
Looks like another method used by MS to trick people into having to use
their browser, in this case to view their proprietary formatted saved
webpage.
What advantage could there be over the way that FF saves a (complete)
webpage as an html file? Just curious.
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hjmler
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:cdSdnUumvYGQ1ebVnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@posted.ccountrynet...
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Looks like another method used by MS to trick people into having to use
their browser, in this case to view their proprietary formatted saved
webpage.
What advantage could there be over the way that FF saves a (complete)
webpage as an html file? Just curious.
there's only 1 file, instead of 1 html file and however many image files |
scatter whoknowswhere... |
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John Corliss
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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hjmler wrote:
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"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:cdSdnUumvYGQ1ebVnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@posted.ccountrynet...
Looks like another method used by MS to trick people into having to use
their browser, in this case to view their proprietary formatted saved
webpage.
What advantage could there be over the way that FF saves a (complete)
webpage as an html file? Just curious.
there's only 1 file, instead of 1 html file and however many image files
scatter whoknowswhere...
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Well that's okay, but sometimes I modify web pages I've downloaded by
removing advertising, etc. I can then go into the attached folder and
delete a lot of the unwanted crap.
Also, FWICS, neither TB nor FF can open an .mht file.
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Groups posts because of Googlespam. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple,
demo, dotnet, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez
for me, please. |
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hummingbird
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:35:22 -0700 'John Corliss'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
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hummingbird wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:20:11 -0500 'spoon2001'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
One thing I liked about Internet Explorer was the ability to save webpages
(including all embedded graphics, etc.) to a single MHT file.
I used to do this in Firefox using the MAF extension. But it was never
updated for Firefox 2, let alone Firefox 3.
But this one looks good -
UnMHT for Firefox
http://www.unmht.org/unmht/en_index.html
Works with FF3.
Spoon, I'm not a FF user, but I wonder if that extension will
embed the URL into the .mht documents like IE browsers do?
Can you clarify what you mean by embedding the URL? Thanks.
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Sure, when you save a webpage in .MHT format in IE based browsers,
it includes headers like this, which can be accessed using a plain
text editor, as well as viewed in a browser or (say) Universal
Viewer.
The original URL that the page is saved from is embedded in the
document (in about line 16) and you can always click it to go to
that webpage again -or- copy/paste it for quoting to others:
Example headers from MHT file:
=======================================================
From: <Saved by Microsoft Internet Explorer 5>
Subject: Massive Oil Deposit Could Increase US reserves by 10x
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:59:20 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/related;
type="text/html";
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C8938B.3C498ED0"
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C8938B.3C498ED0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Location:
http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html
================================================
If you click the link above it takes you to the original webpage.
I find that very useful.
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I find that a VERY useful feature of the IE renderer.
Interesting description of the .mht file type here:
http://filext.com/file-extension/MHT
"Archived Web Page. When you save a Web page as a Web archive in
Internet Explorer, the Web page saves this information in Multipurpose
Internet Mail Extension HTML (MHTML) format with a .MHT file extension.
All relative links in the Web page are remapped and the embedded content
is included in the .MHT file. The absolute references or hyperlinks on
the Web page remain unchanged and the .MHT file is viewed using Internet
Explorer. Note: This file type can become infected and should be
carefully scanned if someone sends you a file with this extension."
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Yeah, I agree with that except that I wasn't aware of the security
risk. However, all my .MHT docs are ones I've saved myself and
nobody has ever sent me one.
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Looks like another method used by MS to trick people into having to use
their browser, in this case to view their proprietary formatted saved
webpage.
What advantage could there be over the way that FF saves a (complete)
webpage as an html file? Just curious.
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In IE, saving an HTML page doesn't save the webpage like a
snapshot with all the images and text in place, which MHT format
does. HTML pages invariably create several new folders with the
..css files separately.
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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
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hjmler
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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there's only 1 file, instead of 1 html file and however many image files
scatter whoknowswhere...
Well that's okay, but sometimes I modify web pages I've downloaded by
removing advertising, etc. I can then go into the attached folder and
delete a lot of the unwanted crap.
Also, FWICS, neither TB nor FF can open an .mht file.
--
John Corliss BS206. I use nFilter to block all crossposts and all Google
Groups posts because of Googlespam. No ad, cd, commercial, cripple,
demo, dotnet, nag, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez
for me, please.
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for years I've been using an app called Blocknote (http://bit.ly/2qJOcQ), a
little, very basic html editor.
I can toss stuff into it -pictures, graphics- and save it as mht or email
it... all the graphics go along or stay inside.... I can give the file or
email a richly descriptive title and BN also lets me save a much long
description in a field it calls "document properties" but which is actually
the html <title></title> ... makes for easy indexing and searching and the
guts/body text is searchable too, any mht is searchable in that sense.
when I go searching for something I've squirreled away in an mht file I can
easily fetch out the graphics AND in context...
so for my purposes, mht is a just dandy tool. |
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miskairal
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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John Corliss wrote:
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hjmler wrote:
"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:cdSdnUumvYGQ1ebVnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@posted.ccountrynet...
Looks like another method used by MS to trick people into having to use
their browser, in this case to view their proprietary formatted saved
webpage.
What advantage could there be over the way that FF saves a (complete)
webpage as an html file? Just curious.
there's only 1 file, instead of 1 html file and however many image files
scatter whoknowswhere...
Well that's okay, but sometimes I modify web pages I've downloaded by
removing advertising, etc. I can then go into the attached folder and
delete a lot of the unwanted crap.
Also, FWICS, neither TB nor FF can open an .mht file.
I've been using mht files for years with Opera. Simply Save As and |
change the file type to Web archive. Opera can easily open them too
however you have to set it manually to be the default programme to open
..mht files even if it is already your default browser.
I find it far tidier to save mht files than html with images. |
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spoon2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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Spoon, I'm not a FF user, but I wonder if that extension will
embed the URL into the .mht documents like IE browsers do?
I find that a VERY useful feature of the IE renderer.
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Very good question. I saved MHTs using IE7, FF with UnMHT, and FF with
MAF. All saved the page with a Content-Location header as follows:
Content-Location: http://www.google.com/
With IE7 and FF2 with MAF extension, the Content-Transfer-Encoding was
quoted-printable. But with FF3 with UnMHT, the Content-Transfer-Encoding
was base64 and not readable. I'll have to check into that. |
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spoon2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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Thanks, Johnw. I installed the bumped version of MAF 0.6.3 on FF3, but I
couldn't get it to work. When I clicked the "Save Page in Archive" option,
nothing happened. So I suspect that while the MAF 0.6.3 may get past the
FF3 compatibility check, it won't actually work. It might be a glitch on
my system, though. |
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spoon2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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Looks like another method used by MS to trick people into having to use
their browser, in this case to view their proprietary formatted saved
webpage.
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Actually MHT is not proprietary. It's based on RFC 2557. Here's a page on
browser and program support for MHT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHTML
IE, Opera, and Netfront provide built-in support. FF and Safari don't have
it built in, but there are add-ons. Konqueror uses a different format for
saving web pages to single files.
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What advantage could there be over the way that FF saves a (complete)
webpage as an html file? Just curious.
there's only 1 file, instead of 1 html file and however many image files
scatter whoknowswhere...
Well that's okay, but sometimes I modify web pages I've downloaded by
removing advertising, etc. I can then go into the attached folder and
delete a lot of the unwanted crap.
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Good point. You could save the file in the regular "complete" format, go
into the files directory and delete the unneeded junk - and then reopen it
and then save it as an MHT.
There's also a Microsoft tool to convert "complete" webpages+files into a
single MHT file -
http://tinyurl.com/49qlu
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Also, FWICS, neither TB nor FF can open an .mht file.
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Just tried it - with UnMHT installed, FF3 opens MHTs just fine.
Thanks for asking the questions, it made me learn some things. |
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hummingbird
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:12:02 -0500 'spoon2001'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
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Spoon, I'm not a FF user, but I wonder if that extension will
embed the URL into the .mht documents like IE browsers do?
I find that a VERY useful feature of the IE renderer.
Very good question. I saved MHTs using IE7, FF with UnMHT, and FF with
MAF. All saved the page with a Content-Location header as follows:
Content-Location: http://www.google.com/
With IE7 and FF2 with MAF extension, the Content-Transfer-Encoding was
quoted-printable. But with FF3 with UnMHT, the Content-Transfer-Encoding
was base64 and not readable. I'll have to check into that.
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Thanks, I'd guess that non-IE users would find that entry useful
sooner or later.
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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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spoon2001 wrote:
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There's also a Microsoft tool to convert "complete" webpages+files into a
single MHT file -
http://tinyurl.com/49qlu
Seems you need to have microsoft Office to use this? |
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spoon2001
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: Re: save webpages to MHT files from Firefox 3 |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:18:16 +1000, miskairal wrote:
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spoon2001 wrote:
There's also a Microsoft tool to convert "complete" webpages+files into a
single MHT file -
http://tinyurl.com/49qlu
Seems you need to have microsoft Office to use this?
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Well, not sure of the license, but it works whether you have Office
installed or not.
This is from the dialog that pops up when you run webarch.exe:
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Packs or unpacks a Web Archive file
WEBARCH source [destination] [/Y]
source Specifies the file to be packed or unpacked. If the file is an
.htm or .html file, then it is packed. If the file is an .mht or
.mhtml file, then it is unpacked.
destination Specifies the directory and/or filename for the result
/Y Suppresses prompting to confirm you want to overwrite an existing
result
If you are unpacking a Web Archive, destination must be a directory.
Note that wildcards aren't allowed for either source or destination.
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You can also drag and drop unpacked webpages onto webarch.exe to convert
them to MHT files. I used it to batch convert many unpacked webpages to
MHTs, all at once. |
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